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Posted by Aaron Tunell at September 30. 2008

Liam, any plans for a new App board? like with I2C pins and Serial2?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at September 30. 2008
We've actually just created a new board which will be an alternative to the existing App Board. This one is much smaller and simpler - basically brings the raw signals out from the Controller to simple 0.1" sockets, grouped by peripheral - ADCs, UART0, UART1, debug UART, TWI, CAN, SPI1 & 2, and the rest are brought out as GPIO. I'll be putting some docs/info up for it soon once everything is tested, etc and we'll hopefully have it for sale in the next couple weeks. The TWI functionality is dependent on a forthcoming revision of the Controller Board itself - this is not too far off.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Jon Gervais at October 10. 2008

Is this going to be base on the prototyping board for sale now?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 10. 2008

No - it's completely separate from the Prototype Board (and will probably replace it, in all likelihood).

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at October 18. 2008

Does that mean that if I order the current v1.1 it will become obsolete? What will be removed from the current feature set?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at October 19. 2008

Oh, never mind my previous comment. Is this replacing the Application board or the Prototyping board? In what way will it be different from the Application board?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 20. 2008

The new, smaller board will be compatible with the v1.x and v2.0 Controller.  It will be different from the current App Board in the ways mentioned above - smaller, no I/O protection/buffering, no big connectors.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at October 20. 2008

So let me get this straight:

Its a simplified App board that is more practical if you do not plan on using all of the fancy features of the fully-feautured App board?

Sounds interesting...

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 20. 2008

Precisely. :)

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Aaron Tunell at October 21. 2008

Liam, will I2C be available on the next controller board? And will the new app board support it?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Aaron Tunell at October 21. 2008

i think i misunderstood, is TWI the same as I2C?

will heavy support this?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 21. 2008

Yeah - TWI & I2C are the same.  The hardware will be available on Controller v2.0 & App Board 2.0...I can't guarantee when the firmware support will be available for it, however.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Aaron Tunell at October 21. 2008

I'll be starting a project soon where i desperately need I2C, and want to have solid access to it out of box. I don't want to go with arduino, though, because I also want the I/Os and serial etc. There's a tutorial on using I2C that shows how to modify the MC Controller board and the firmware, but i'm hesitant...

When will each of these be available? Controller 2.0 and App board 2.0. Rough timeframe?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 21. 2008

Um - I would say 2 months or so, rough guess.  

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Philip van Allen at October 29. 2008

Will the small App Board include Ethernet?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at October 29. 2008

Most definitely.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at November 01. 2008

What features will be left out?

Will a new fully-featured v2.0 board with I2C be available, or is it just the small one thats coming out?

 

Oh yeah... and by the way, is it planned to be released b4 Christmas? :P

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at November 02. 2008

Features to be left out: green/blue connectors, input buffers, output drivers, JTAG connector (although there's a spot to connect one if you want), DIP switch, trimpot, pulldowns on the inputs, polarity protection on the main power connection, no separate 5V supply (just V+ and 3.3V).

There will also be a new version of the Application Board with I2C support.

We'll sell both the PCB by itself and an assembled version - chances are good it'll be out before Xmas :)

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at November 07. 2008

Any pics available of the prorotype, assuming one exists already?

Schematics or PCB design?

<seems pretty cool>

:)

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at November 21. 2008

No new news? Thats ok... I'm guessing it's confidential LOL. Speaking of potentially future hardware, what happened to my post on the idea of mounting holes? :-?

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at November 21. 2008

Sorry - I'll try and get something up soon!

I remember there was a post on mounting holes but it was empty so I removed it.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at November 21. 2008

I'll repost the idea for mounting holes, so please consider it before finalizing your app board plans :)

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at December 08. 2008

Any news yet... Christmas is fast approaching :P

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at December 08. 2008

Finally found my Flickr login info so I posted a few snaps I took of it.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Aaron Tunell at December 08. 2008

that is SWEET looking.

Reminds me of an arduino, but beefier.

Liam, you guys have GOT to design a TouchShield for this. Total dream come true.

It would be interesting to see if there was a way to get the liquidware touchshield to hook up natively without designing a new one. I've been using the Touchshield and like it a lot, but it uses its own separate graphics controller that requires its own firmware (sketch) for each project, meaning there are 2 sketches for each project, and that the touchshield must be programmed though the arduino.

The guys over at liquidware actually have a bunch of really cool stuff for working with the arduino. Maybe the new form factor of the MC will make collaboration more convenient.

www.liquidware.com

 

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at December 08. 2008

Cool - I've just put the schematics/layout doc up too.  Will try and get this into our store shortly.

http://www.makingthings.com/files/schematics/interface_v01.pdf

Re: New App Board?

Posted by potentialuser at December 08. 2008

Quote:

There will also be a new version of the Application Board with I2C support.

Is, this idea also been worked on? If so, any pics?  Looking more forward to it than the Interface :P

The Interface does look great though, I may consider it as well.

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Liam Staskawicz at December 08. 2008

No pics of that yet as we haven't had any boards made up for it just yet.  It's pretty much a cross between the current App Board and the Interface Board, if that gives you any mental images to work with :)

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Ken M at December 08. 2008

Ill certainly be ordering one.. Wish i could do so tommorow!

Re: New App Board?

Posted by Ken M at December 08. 2008

Ill certainly be ordering one.. Wish i could do so tommorow!

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